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Well I got socked with a 30 euro fee from Velocity this month. I'm doing consulting work full time right now and trading only the only the last 90min of the day and didn't meet the 25 trade minimum. I did a lengthy chat with them about this and there is no leeway. I told them this is not competitive. I paid over $5.50/trade this month! Their response was that I should deactivate my platform to avoid the fee next month, which implies trading with another broker. Which is what I did.

This doesn't make any sense to me as I've generated thousands in commissions over the past several years. Why they are willing to risk making zero commissions in order to try and get an extra 30 euros out of me is illogical.

I will trade with Mirus for a while.

see my post in the other velocity thread - I detailed some negative experiences with Velocity a few days ago and got this email out of the blue yesterday (I have been trading with velocity for almost 2 years):

Effective immediately, your account with Velocity Futures is being closed for Business and Risk reasons exclusive to Velocity Futures.

Your funds will be forwarded to you immediately upon receipt of wiring instructions as to where you would like them sent.

Thank you for trading with Velocity Futures and good luck and continued success in your future trading.


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@cunparis

Are you using X Trader with them or one of the other platforms?

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see my post in the other velocity thread - I detailed some negative experiences with Velocity a few days ago and got this email out of the blue yesterday (I have been trading with velocity for almost 2 years):

Effective immediately, your account with Velocity Futures is being closed for Business and Risk reasons exclusive to Velocity Futures.

Your funds will be forwarded to you immediately upon receipt of wiring instructions as to where you would like them sent.

Thank you for trading with Velocity Futures and good luck and continued success in your future trading.


caveat emptor...

I read that thread and it doesn't surprise me. I guess velocity has enough customers and don't care to let a few loyal long term (2 years for both of us) go. that's business for you. I've always had great service from Mirus.

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Just as a heads up, Velocity is a very small firm that has had numerous NFA violations. Their website implies them to be a large brokerage, however they don't even come up on a Bloomberg terminal. I think their capital is $1.6 million. Clearly they have no hedge funds, which is what their front page implies.

Nothing wrong with this, every firm has to start somewhere. I will never use them. I guess they will be bought out someday, or the firm's owner will maybe see a successful trader in action - and also get a ton of orderflow in the process.

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Just as a heads up, Velocity is a very small firm that has had numerous NFA violations. Their website implies them to be a large brokerage, however they don't even come up on a Bloomberg terminal. I think their capital is $1.6 million. Clearly they have no hedge funds, which is what their front page implies.

Nothing wrong with this, every firm has to start somewhere. I will never use them. I guess they will be bought out someday, or the firm's owner will maybe see a successful trader in action - and also get a ton of orderflow in the process.

The "capital" in which you're referring to here is most likely the assets separate and aside from their seg. funds. Their seg. funds. are far greater to the tune of $85MM according to the Top 50 Brokers report from last year. That would indicate that there are potentially some small funds included within their client mix.

Not sure why they aren't appearing on Bloomberg. Did you search correctly? I can't imagine a firm that is listed as a top 50 futures broker not showing up. Did you try searching under the CEO's name?

As for the NFA violations, they appear to be silly anti-money laundering (AML) procedures. This is a pain in the rear for all firms since the Patriot Act came about. If you don't follow everything to the last detail, you get fined.

I'm not looking to defend this firm nor do I have anything to do with them but just wanted to respond because your post was a bit vague. Having been in the business for so long, I've seen both sides of the table here. Public (retail) perception can be way off many times because they're not looking into the details.

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As for the NFA violations, they appear to be silly anti-money laundering (AML) procedures. This is a pain in the rear for all firms since the Patriot Act came about. If you don't follow everything to the last detail, you get fined.

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I dunno ... this looks pretty serious to me.....

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Jack E. Earnest, Jr., Founder & CEO

"From building trading floors and systems from scratch to developing custom software and risk solutions for use in new markets, Jack brings robust utility to complex trading operations. Especially in new and complex markets it is functionality that makes traders comfortable and potentially more profitable."

Jack E. Earnest, Jr. is the founder Velocity Futures LP., a Futures Commission Merchant registered with the CFTC and the NFA to address the needs of active commodity traders.

Prior to founding Velocity Futures, LLC. , in 1995 Mr. Earnest founded Momentum Securities, Inc., an NASD and SEC registered broker/dealer and CSI.NET, a software development company which developed several diverse products for high frequency trading in the equity markets. Momentum went on to become one of the largest professional equity trading organizations in North America, second only to Charles Schwab in terms of daily transaction volume. In 1999, Momentum and CSI.NET were acquired and are now owned and operated by E-Trade under the name E-Trade Professional. Prior to founding Momentum Securities and CSI.NET, Mr. Earnest worked as an accountant with KPMG Peat Marwick.

In October 2007, together with Mark Schwausch, Mr. Earnest formed Velocity Merchant Energy LP, a private investment manager dedicated to providing investment management globally to institutions and sophisticated investors specifically in the areas of North American power and natural gas. In March of 2006, Mr. Earnest became a founding partner of Velocity Energy Trading, a private energy trading firm, and is the architect responsible for developing the trading floor, proprietary software, technology and risk management used by Velocity Energy Trading today.

Jack holds a BBA from the University of Texas at Austin in Finance with a second major in Accounting.

Disclaimer: I am not a customer of nor do I have any financial or business interests in Velocity Futures or any of their associated companies.

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hmmm I knew about the maintenance fee, I could not just not see it when I opened the account.
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The "capital" in which you're referring to here is most likely the assets separate and aside from their seg. funds. Their seg. funds. are far greater to the tune of $85MM according to the Top 50 Brokers report from last year. That would indicate that there are potentially some small funds included within their client mix.

Not sure why they aren't appearing on Bloomberg. Did you search correctly? I can't imagine a firm that is listed as a top 50 futures broker not showing up. Did you try searching under the CEO's name?

As for the NFA violations, they appear to be silly anti-money laundering (AML) procedures. This is a pain in the rear for all firms since the Patriot Act came about. If you don't follow everything to the last detail, you get fined.

I'm not looking to defend this firm nor do I have anything to do with them but just wanted to respond because your post was a bit vague. Having been in the business for so long, I've seen both sides of the table here. Public (retail) perception can be way off many times because they're not looking into the details.

I didn't know about the seg accounts - that definitely sounds better.

Rechecked bloomberg, no cigar.

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