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Possible to trail a stop per Parabolic SAR?

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 christhesquid 
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Hey guys,

First time post, long time reader. I plan on sticking around, this is by far the best community that I've found when it comes to trading (a rarity indeed).

Question: is it possible to make Ninja Trader trail a stop based on Parabolic SAR dots on the chart automatically after a break even ATM kicks in (hope that makes sense)? If so, how do I go about programming that? Should it be a strategy, or?

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Chris

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Hey guys,

First time post, long time reader. I plan on sticking around, this is by far the best community that I've found when it comes to trading (a rarity indeed).

Question: is it possible to make Ninja Trader trail a stop based on Parabolic SAR dots on the chart automatically after a break even ATM kicks in (hope that makes sense)? If so, how do I go about programming that? Should it be a strategy, or?

Thanks,
Chris



Yes, you can do it via a strategy, but not via an ATM. ATM only supports price (tick) based movements, a strategy can do it though with anything you want.

Unfortunately, this also means your strategy needs to be placing the entry orders, or you can have a custom strategy created that places a buy or sell short button on your chart to 'manually' get you into a position, then have the strategy manage the trailing stop from the Parabolic SAR.

It's pretty advanced, so if you don't know already how to do it, I would say you need to hire it done most likely.

Mike

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That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the response! Keep up the good work on the site!

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Anyone see Chirs Long's(at alcomie.gmail.com) " Profit Target Trailing Stop". You can add it to your automated
strategy to set profit targets, trailing stops, etc. I'm going to put it out here and you can load it down. With
this added to my strategy I uped my profitability from 43.73% to 68.10% under RealtimeTrades. When I put it
under NT backtest101 AllTrades my profitability was up 77.05%. I'm getting there. The next thing I got to try is
if I'm on the wrong side of the trade, if my profitability is less than zero; get out and get on the right side of the trade.

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hey bill,

thanks for the code.
can you tell us where it is coming from - a forum or a website ?

are there any explainations or charts / pics to this concept ?

thanks in advance
max

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I'm currently testing it on NT 7.0. I loaded it down when I was looking for strategies and indicators on the web.
It automates your stop management. If you go through the strategys, a bollinger band strategy will give you
60% profitability. And I heard on another website that most automated strategies are 60% profitable or more
trend following systems. I believe each person should stand on their own feet and go through the pain of giving birth to their own trading strategies and increment themselves through the consequences of trading real time wilh real money. So, I believe you should stand on your own, be your own, do your own; and suddenly you'll
live strong on your own.

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bill,

does this posted concept work with bollinger Bands or with parabolic SAR ?
can you post the link / location where you have it from ?

sorry, but somehow i dont get your answer yet

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Yes, you can do it via a strategy, but not via an ATM. ATM only supports price (tick) based movements, a strategy can do it though with anything you want.

Mike

well, this is not right in all points.

@christhesquid

you can use a strategy and in that strategy you use an ATM that controlls your positions.
this way you dont need much target / BreakEven / Stoploss- code-stuff.

AND

you can modify your in a strategy running ATM so that the ATM stop follows your indicator-conditions after your breakeven-trail !
iE PSAR or superTrend or Bar-Close-Below-EMA100 whatever

Thats possible.
there are snippets to modify ATM via code - your stops and your targets.

all this you do inside a strategy.

it is not possible without running a strategy (if only using a normal entry with an ATM)


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Question: is it possible to make Ninja Trader trail a stop based on Parabolic SAR dots on the chart automatically after a break even ATM kicks in (hope that makes sense)? If so, how do I go about programming that? Should it be a strategy, or?

so i would answer with a Yes to this question.

of course its also a bit advanced, but its possible if you prefer using the AMTs.

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Max-Td,

This automated stop strategy works with all indicators, bollinger bands, cci, tssupertrend, candlestick patterns,
rsi, etc. Also, add P&L, time filter, round trip filter, etc. And I would suggest to use the "RealTimeErrorHandling".
Turning that off, you would have to know what you are doing. Here's a stop strategy that I loaded down from
Big Mike's a couple days ago. It may be above my head, since it turns off the "RealTimeErrorHandling". If someone could explain to me how this strat works as follows:

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