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Am I the only one who finds peculiar that the Republican party chose a wall street fat cat to run, given the rise of the occupy wall street sentiment lately. Really?

Did the party actually choose him? No. He was chosen by checkbooks of rich billionaires. When presented with a choice of Romney vs others, Romney would save them the most money, so they put their money behind him.

Unless you somehow think that delegates can't be bought, that they are some impermeable body that is not susceptible to the ungodly amounts of money being thrown into this campaign.

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If "Made In Africa" is actually better for the middle class and wages, why do all those people go about saying buy "Made in the USA"... are they just misguided?

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Don't want to hijack the thread, but will just say I don't believe in exporting jobs to Africa because it is cheaper to hire people there...


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Was that in relation to anything I said or are you directing that toward someone else?

As an aside, "Made in Africa" is almost definitely better for the African middle class and African wages. Plus, if you could buy an African manufactured Lexus for $10,000 - would that be a good deal for you too (assuming you wanted a Lexus of course). Wouldn't that be good for the US middle class too?

People going around saying "Buy in the USA" are being patriotic, for sure. And providing the qualityrice of the product or service is better than you can get anywhere else, it makes economic sense too. But if the latter case doesn’t hold, they yes, of course they’re misguided.

But that’s the thing, more Americans have been taking the sensible economic option rather than the patriotic one and importing. Same as they have in Europe and UK. Which is why we are where we are.


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I don't think it matters... while I really don't know how it works in the US, from what I've read here it seems the real power lies in congress and their corporate supporters... the Presidents are just puppets imo. Putting up the wall street guy for a bashing and a defeat is all for show, for the public to feel avenged...

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The Globalist are in control and the Utopia that was America may be for the history books now...

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Did the party actually choose him? No. He was chosen by checkbooks of rich billionaires. When presented with a choice of Romney vs others, Romney would save them the most money, so they put their money behind him.

Unless you somehow think that delegates can't be bought, that they are some impermeable body that is not susceptible to the ungodly amounts of money being thrown into this campaign.

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- Term limits for our representatives
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- Scrap the Delegate system, and use popular vote

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- Term limits for our representatives
- Limits on campaign contributions
- Scrap the Delegate system, and use popular vote

And how do you propose We The People implement this change? Let's say that the majority of the US agrees with you, the problem is Congress doesn't represent the majority any longer, so it doesn't matter what they want.

If I was super rich I'd spend a lot of money on billboards and radio ads trying to educate the public and trying to get a movement started to bring change. But for the moment, as a single individual, all I can do is talk to anyone who will listen - and most of them are more interested in who won American Idol last night than in improving the system.

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Schwarzeneggar as gov. of California tried a few rounds of public referendums. He was popular enough to get the first referendums on the ballot. But the 2nd rounds for pension reform didn't make it and he gave up and withdrew into global warming and "energy" issues. Too many Californians are on the state dole and member of unions and it was much easier for them get out the vote with motivation to preserve pensions and benefits which are of course impossible to fund except by kicking the bucket down like everything else to future generations of debt. The assemblymen are controlled and voted in by union and immigrant demographics. the state budget always in deficit by tens of billions now looks small compared to the Fed's new QE^3-infinity. i.e. 50 billion created a month.

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