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Started:February 25th, 2011 (12:11 AM) by er2wizard Views / Replies:35,348 / 326
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Horst's Trades

Old April 10th, 2011, 11:37 PM   #311 (permalink)
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Greetings Mike, I have not been around to respond to your viewpoint for the simple fact that the negativity that I've been exposed to here recently, doesn't suit me well. I am somewhat disappointed in your position and the conclusions you have been summarizing. Lets go back to the days before starting the journals for March where we discussed the ground rules in the form of PM's between you and I.


#1 You asked me how I was affiliated with NFT because you obviously had seen my videos on their YouTube channel that was posted with a link in another thread here. I told you I was a student, which I am. #2 I asked you if I could host my vids from that channel and link them here. You adamantly replied no, and that I must open my own YouTube channel for hosting since then, there would be no links to follow to my coach. I gladly obliged. #3 You made it quite clear there was to be no advertising and/or links posted involving my coach, which I haven't done. Do I love my coach enough to recommend him to others on onother site? Yes. Did I ever recommend him HERE? No


I have honored your requests to the fullest. Nowhere in our communication did you ever mention the fact that I needed to trade with one hand tied behind my back whilst blindfolded. I have been keeping a video log of my trading since Oct. 2010 and have no need to make these special so called "Sales Vids" for your contest. Yes I have bad days just like everyone else, but they can be counted on one hand, and they don't wipe out a weeks worth of gains (Feb. was a good example). It just so happens that in March, I was focused with a clear vision and a little extra determination. Consequently I give credit to your website and the inspiration of posting my journal here. For that I thank you, and I should be the one buying YOU the iPad as a token of my appreciation.


I would also like to address those with the obvious "Lack Mentality" (google it) that can't see the forest for the trees. They are engaged in the most lucrative business in the world, yet fail to realize the true potential in front of them. By criticizing and ostracizing me, they can defend their own shield of denial. Speculating that trading better than they do is a distinct possibility, but yet this way, they don't have to feel as bad about their own shortcomings and failures.


Guys, I was trying to help open your eyes and make you aware of your surroundings and your true potential. It's there, if you search within yourselves. Set your goals a little higher, you won't regret it. Just because you can't see it yet, doesn't mean it's not in your horizon.



I will retreat now back into my cave, as I can hear the villagers approaching in the distance, bearing pitchforks, clubs and torches once again .................Hence, I Bid You All Adieu

@er2wizard,
Horst, grow some balls man. Rather than letting healthy skepticism (or downright disbelief) from people you don't know disrupt your posting, why not just let people believe whatever they want? For every person that actually posts here, there are dozens (probably more) that simply read. And the detractors are as entitled to their opinions as your supporters. Be a man. If you're sincere, post your vids within the rule boundaries of this forum. As you've stated, it has already been of benefit to you. There are others who might be inspired or perhaps learn something. On the other hand, if you're a charlatan or simply a mentor nut-hugger then your Adieu is "well-bidden" and don't let the door hit ya on your way out.

     
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Old April 10th, 2011, 11:37 PM   #312 (permalink)
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I would have thought PM's were just that, private ( confidential)...not something where the content became public

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Old April 10th, 2011, 11:48 PM   #313 (permalink)
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@er2wizard,
Horst, grow some balls man. Rather than letting healthy skepticism (or downright disbelief) from people you don't know disrupt your posting, why not just let people believe whatever they want? For every person that actually posts here, there are dozens (probably more) that simply read. And the detractors are as entitled to their opinions as your supporters. Be a man. If you're sincere, post your vids within the rule boundaries of this forum. As you've stated, it has already been of benefit to you. There are others who might be inspired or perhaps learn something. On the other hand, if you're a charlatan or simply a mentor nut-hugger then your Adieu is "well-bidden" and don't let the door hit ya on your way out.


I don't let negativity into my life....and no its not healthy.......thus I choose not to enter any pi$$ing contests

“The more I am around people, the more I love my dogs.” ~Author Unknown
     

Old April 10th, 2011, 11:52 PM   #314 (permalink)
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I don't let negativity into my life....and no its not healthy.......thus I choose not to enter any pi$$ing contests

But surely you can understand the skeptical reaction?

This industry is rife with deception... you don't expect people to accept everything without asking questions do you?

I am sure you do not live your life believing everything you see and hear. Skepticism is a requirement to ensure we are not being constantly fooled.

People are simply asking for proof, not calling you a liar.

There is a difference.

     

Old April 11th, 2011, 12:05 AM   #315 (permalink)
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Let's not relive this! haha... 200 posts of is it real, is it fake, blah blah blah.... We should all just watch TV or sign up for the Military if we want DRAMA in our lives.

Let Horst do what he wants to do. If he wants to post, he will. If not, then not. His choice.

BTW, I have been watching his videos. He had a pretty shite day trading the TF last week. Still profitable, but not something to bring home to Mom.

     

Old April 11th, 2011, 12:07 AM   #316 (permalink)
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I agree with Bluemele. Zero drama. And the TF was very difficult to trade properly last week.

     

Old April 11th, 2011, 12:11 AM   #317 (permalink)
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I don't let negativity into my life....and no its not healthy.......thus I choose not to enter any pi$$ing contests

Quitters never win, winners never quit. I LOVE contests, relish the competition and... I'm going to drain your accounts. Think positive. See you in the market.

     

Old April 11th, 2011, 12:18 AM   #318 (permalink)
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Quitters never win, winners never quit. I LOVE contests, relish the competition and... I'm going to drain your accounts. Think positive. See you in the market.

I have heard of people being 'competitive' and profitable, but honestly, I don't see how you can be? That is such a stretch for me as I have always measured myself against others success (which I do not recommend!) and found it never served me at all. Do you find it serves you to be in a competition with others or to have that mental mindset? Just curious.

     

Old April 11th, 2011, 12:50 AM   #319 (permalink)
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I have heard of people being 'competitive' and profitable, but honestly, I don't see how you can be? That is such a stretch for me as I have always measured myself against others success (which I do not recommend!) and found it never served me at all. Do you find it serves you to be in a competition with others or to have that mental mindset? Just curious.

Hi Bluemele,
I respect your question - and enjoy your journal. Philosophically, I like Stephen Covey's (7 Habits of Highly Effective People) paradigm: Win Win or No Deal. In other words, you agree up front that the only acceptable conclusion is to find something that both parties agree is a "win" or you simply agree to disagree. This would get way beyond the scope of what you're asking for, but it is actually possible that I could be short ES in a directional play and wanting the market to move down. The other side of my trade is held, for this example, by a bank that is using the long ES position that offsets my trade to hedge their delta, or directional risk of a different equity position. So from that standpoint, it is possible that a favorable move for me, could also end up as a "win" for the other side. But in general, I'm pretty much thinking that the only way I'm going to get filled short is if someone else thinks the market is going up. One of us will be right, and I hope I'm the one.

In the context of this thread... I'd like to see a little more competitive spirit from Horst. If he is for real, why roll over and quit when a little adversity comes along? If Horst takes a few losing trades, does he bid the market adieu? On the other hand, if there is an ulterior motive for his posting and he has been exposed, then his departure would make perfect sense.

     
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Old April 11th, 2011, 01:01 AM   #320 (permalink)
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In the context of this thread... I'd like to see a little more competitive spirit from Horst. If he is for real, why roll over and quit when a little adversity comes along? If Horst takes a few losing trades, does he bid the market adieu? On the other hand, if there is an ulterior motive for his posting and he has been exposed, then his departure would make perfect sense.


I agree. In every situation other than being fraudulent, providing evidence can only do good.

The way I see it there are 3 options.

1.) Horst is a great trader and is sharing his journal to help himself and others.
2.) Horst is a great trader who has learned his trading skill from NFT and wants to advertise for them.
3.) Horst is faking the trades in elaborate piece of advertising for NFT.

Only option 3 suffers from the requirement of evidence of authenticity.

The first 2 options would benefit from it greatly.

     
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