I had visited eminitradingdschool and found it one of the most incompetent and a bit ridiculous rooms...at least most hide or pretend to be more professional..Greg Had Not Made A Cent Trading his personal account: I know this from people who worked side by side with him for years..
Shocked to receive advertisement about their webinar from Matt at Optimus: I just joined Optimus two months ago...and am quite happy with them..therefore came as shocker: send email to Matt questioning why in the world he would ever promote such ...
Same Old Cliche:" if it looks too good to be true it probably is..."...Madoff posted endless wins..So Does Greg...
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nothing against Matt or Optimus:Matt Had Been Very Personable and so are his staff.. just hope and pray that He Has Nothing To Do With Greg or eminitradingschool: I know he received calls about this...Lets see what he does with webinar
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Great to have this forum that will discuss this type of business.
I am going to sign into this room for live trading: sometime over the next 2 weeks, to watch:
Check them out and record the day, time and type of calls.
We should be able to compare notes...
and see what happens. I will report my unbiased findings.
Note: I have been in the live trading room called: Puretick.com before , so I know what to expect from
the 'front running trading-hosts '.
Great to be here, stay tuned !
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My Personal Experiences with The Emini Trading School
Approximately one year ago I stumbled across the Emini Trading School while searching on YouTube. Being new to Emini trading I had a few questions about their charts and methodology. I called Greg on the phone and he answered all the questions that I had. Trading at the time for me was a hobby and I realized that some investment capital was neccessary in training and software costs to hopefully speed up my learning curve. After buying and reading the book Mind Over Markets by Peter Steidlmayer that Greg recommended we read before taking his course I decided to sign up for his 6 day online live trading seminar and purchased the software package. I fully realized the risk of not receiving anything of value but after the course was over I had a completely different view and approach towards the markets as a whole. Without getting into a debate about Market Profile as many traders see it as redundant it is not a trading methodology but was designed by the CBOT as a means of getting daily trading information faster to the floor traders in the pre-electronic instant information age we now live in. Greg has created a software package that helps to portray this information as well as highlight areas of extreme or unfair highs and lows giving the trader a better likelihood of success with order placement outside of the mean. Without going into all the nuances of Auction Market theory the software for me really lays out a solid foundation of how the markets facilitate trade on a daily basis. It has however taken me quite some time and commitment to study and learn how to use the software. Of course I haven't studied or tried every other vendors software who makes similar claims but to my personal knowledge so far I haven't seen anyone else who offers a similar trading plan along with the Market Profile framework.
I haven't attended the Emini Trading School live trading room that often as to my rotating work schedule and because I prefer to trade the overnight session but from the outset of my trading I've wanted to teach myself how to trade the Emini's on my own. I realize there are hundreds of trading rooms that make claims of incredible profits as I've tried out a number of them, all you have to do is give them $300 a month to trade their winning system. Upon closer inspection their claims are usually inflated if not fabricated with the trading room really only making money on the continual memberships of perspective traders. On the flip side there are also thousands of would be traders who really have very little market experience who join these trading rooms with absolutely no interest in studying or taking any time to learn any trading rules or strategies fully expecting to quit their day job listening to someone tell them when to place their trades. With the recent surge of online trading rooms I think it isn't prudent of anyone allowing someone else to trade your money. You should make your own adult decisions whenever you make a trade. No trading room is going to make you wealthy. Only you can do that, but it requires commitment and a lot of trial and error at least this has been my personal experience. With the number of get rich quick trading websites online today you would think there would be countless numbers of traders especially at this site with their success stories. Unfortunately online trading simply is not for everyone. Greg doesn't call live trades nor does he advertise that he does. I have no way of knowing how many trading days he has in a row that are profitable. Showing proof to this claim would certainly bring credibility with it. I have been in his trading room when he has made some very accurate predictions and there have been other times when the market has gone the other way. I enjoy his commentary and market insight but prefer to choose my own entry and exit points. I don't believe rolling the dice with your hard earned money on someone else's say so is a wise thing to do.
With the original purchase of the software it was scripted to run on the Ninja 6.5 platform. A few months later Ninja 7 was released and the software templates weren't transferable to the newer version. It took a month or two during the transition but Greg had all the templates rewritten so they would function properly in the newer version. As with the original software purchase there were dozens of downloadable videos on how to set up and use the Emini Trading School software as well as pdf ready trading plans. There were also promises of future updates in video form as well as pdf format which I have received. The software updates were included free of charge but there were some additional indicators that were added at a cost of $100 to $200 dollars which came with lifetime licenses. If you choose not to purchase these indicators it wouldn't effect the way the original software package worked so you weren't forced to upgrade for fear that your original software wasn't going to function. There was one indicator upgrade that was more expensive due to scripting for the Ninja 7 platform. I purchased it and am enthusiastic about it. A one hour explanation and setup video was produced by Greg to aid in the use of this indicator. The software has performed flawlessly with Ninja 7. It never locks up or is erratic as I'm connected to the markets whenever they're open. I spent almost a full year on a part time basis due to work schedules before I started trading with live funds. I still use and execute my trading strategies using the same Emini Trading School software that I bought a year ago. To date my account has grown with the winners and losers. I have stayed in contact with Greg a few times a month over the last year just to report my progress and to stay on top of any software updates. I have always found Greg to be polite and I can't thank Greg enough for the encouragement, support and software package that he has put together to allow me to trade the way I do today.
To wrap it all up I am simply a trader of the markets who is on a journey to be the best that I can be. There are no guarantees when you trade. As a consumer who paid for a package of software and related trading tools I have received what I paid for. I have no affiliations with the Emini Trading School. Hopefully my testimonial and personal experiences will bring some balance to this thread.
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p.s. Much like the www.eminiscalp.com post from 8+ months ago where the 1 or 2 post dude comes on and tells us his story.
I probably attend/trial/pay for more methods and rooms than anyone in here (over the last 25+ years) as I enjoy the 'process' of it all. I think many of us experienced traders who either use our own methods exclusively or have adapted (after MUCH work) basic methods available on the internet are not impressed with your essay.
BTW--go back in this thread (or maybe it is somewhere else) where another experienced trader states this is a 'churn' method with a crapload of commissions w/ rather large intraday dd's (at times)--and a brutal grind to get back to b.e.
That ain't what short-term intraday trading is about.
This is my opinion. And yes; I used to hang out in the room for fun when the old drunken bastard free room/moderator (he isn't calling the trades anymore) would average down 3-4 times and then scrape out a 2 tick winner net net. He was trolling for new full multi-thousand $ signups.
Yea! Sign me up!
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I don't think Blitzkreig works for the vendor or is affiliated with them. Blitzkreig, do you work for them or are affiliated with them?
I think instead it is probably just lack of experience. No offense to Blitzkreig as many (in fact, most) traders bounce around from one system to the other, and they really never truly understand trading for themselves.
Why would you spend your time in this way? I mean most vendor stuff is pure garbage, cherry picked charts, get rich quick, 2 points a day, let me show you how much money I made crap. Why would you purposely spend time in this way?
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The challenge I have with Greg and Giles, is this and the post above about how great they are.......
1. My buddy invited me to attend a 'free' day of sitting in the room watching his software. I attended while doing other things and his software was full of S&R lines, trendlines, and all kinds of gizmo's and gadgets. He DID call trades and it was comical in how rotten his trade calling was, but of course he was always 'on the phone, sorry guys' when a trade moved any decent amount. My buddy paid I think 7K for the 'software' and that was around Dec 09'.
2. Greg is a likable guy as well as Giles and they have a lot of charisma. Greg I think lives in Aspen and Giles in Washington State (Seattle area).
3. Greg claimed that he hadn't had a losing day in like 30 or 40+ days as I can't recall now. All the days I watched him with my buddy I saw that he lost almost every single day. I stupidly took some of the trades he called out as my indicators seemed good too (but ES was not my instrument) and lost 1,600.00 in one day! My buddy lost a lot more.... And I actually signed up for the month long morning webcast.
4. Another 'trader' would get on there after Giles asked what we traded and would say, "I just made 10 points on the TF" and we would ask follow-up questions and there would not be another post or it would be real quiet and suspicious like, "Well, Greg showed me how to find the perfect setup with the software and so glad I bought it" blah blah blah... Now, this could be true, but I really don't think so....
5. So, from January 10' (last time I had anything to do with them) to later that year, somehow Greg mastered Market Profile and created the perfect software and how to trade with it! Amazing! He is a master trader who can switch between methods so easily and has now created an even better suite of software.
I explained my story before and I just wanted to say, that I have direct experience with the software and this group and of anybody I have dealt with in this business, these two are about as obvious as anyone. I wonder what they think when they read this post.... Gosh, I truly hope that they either provide some real value some day (judgement of my own I know...) or leave the business. Of course their NEW software could actually be good and if that is the case, good for them.
I wish there was a rating system so I could give these guys negative stars....
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